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@jeffreyway Reddit spam from a 9 year old post: https://www.reddit.com/r/laravel/comments/2cn8rh/eloquent_more_trouble_than_its_worth/
(The post body above, it taken from the ‘EDIT’ in the linked Reddit post.)

Here are a couple examples of a queries straight out of a recent application I had to use Fluent for because I couldn't figure out how to accomplish it using Eloquent https://mobdro.bio/ .
$listings = \DB::table('listings as l') ->select('l.id', 'title') ->join('contents as c', function($join) use ($site_id) { $join->on('l.content_id', '=', 'c.id') ->where('site_id', '=', $site_id); }) ->orderBy('updated') ->take($how_many) ->get();
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