Honey pot experience: Spark is not free, so what?

As I've said before I don't like SaaS applications anyway. It's just a way for companies to bilk people for more money. As I've said before Microsoft Office is doing that stuff now, whereas previous versions you could buy the version out right. Funny thing I still have office 2003 professional and it installed just fine on Windows 10. I cannot see paying a monthly fee for office.
Things like Netflix I kinda understand that but for crying out loud not Microsoft Office.
And an open-source PHP developer shouldn't be using saas software anyway kind of two face if you ask me. Enjoying the open-source freedom of PHP and yet developing something you want to bilk money from people.
I have no problem with a one-time sale of a software product I once bought Norton Ghost for one of my computer's. But that monthly thing that is just evil.

@mdecooman Amen!!!

You pointed out the catch twenty two that also gets me going. Most of us make money off the service we offer, PHP development. Yet for some reason people expect free open source products to make themselves money. Some times it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I seen the nightmare with the https://magento.com/products/enterprise-edition Magneto Enterprise Edition which starts at $1500 with one year of updates. Nightmare? Because owners still have to higher devs to configure it for their specific needs. I rarely fits straight out of the box for what they need and of course theming it to what they want. It's a good start but.... $100,000 plus for the initial release for a large fully done e-commerce site.

Now also look at the issues with other open source cms, specifically Wordpress. Security is always an issue as other bad devs download the code and figure out bugs and exploits and take over other peoples sites. Many NFL sites used it for years but was always an issue with security and obviously they have developer teams working on the NFL site and each team has a team for their site. Was to much and they just developed their own. So free open source isn't always the way to go.

Hi @EmilMoe,

As a matter of fact, no. I didn't target you nor anyone else as mentioned at the end. If it was the case I would have started engaging with you directly (peacefully and without capital letters). I just had a feeling to express after wandering in diverse threads (and loosing time). I don't see anyone in this forum as an enemy but rather as a potential helper. If I wanted to start a war, I would vote for... (censored).

I agree that deleting a threat is not cool without explaining the why. You are absolutely right not taking my post too seriously. I gave my general opinion like others did, not a lesson and hopefully a "funny" piece to balance some of the comments that I found indeed too serious for the matter.

Communicating only by text is always a challenge and can sometimes lead to very different interpretations. At the end of the day, we all want what Maslow once displayed as a pyramid... and of course a good WiFi connection. ;-)

You are not who I say sees me and other as enemies, that was a general thing too that it seems if we have a different opinion we are a problem. Now there's another thread with a good point. Nothing more should be said here, it's not THAT big a deal. However I would like some promise that major versions don't come too often and not the day after I bought it and something like that, these announcements would ease things.

Anyway. Many people really like this otherwise no one would care and finally I'm sure it's good PR for the product, everyone in the Laravel world probably know about Spark by now, only a few days after release.

.. I'm not among those with good WiFi :-(

You summarized perfectly the sense of my thread: "it's not THAT big a deal". Laravel is still a young community and I am sure it will evolve for a better and hopefully your WiFi connection too :)

Cheers

Living in the 3rs world such thing is too much to wish for ;-)

I think spark is great product with no monthly price. Buying it will make more money for us.