appdezign's avatar

Cartalyst Platform still maintained?

I'm building a CMS with Laravel 5.2 and I was thinking about getting a subscription to Cartalyst, because some of their packages seem really promising. But it has been very quiet for the last months. No tweets from @Cartalyst or @dansyme since october/november. No new video's on Vimeo. No blog posts (on medium) since july 2015 (!)

Can anyone tell me if the Cartalyst packages are still actively maintained? And if these packages can be used with Laravel 5.2 ? Any subscribers here who can tell what's going on ?

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ohffs's avatar

The github repo's seem to be getting updated - if that's the same thing you mean?

drsii's avatar

Hi @appdezign,

We're very much active. We've just been quite as of late as we have been working on a series of new products that we're keeping hush hush. Packages are still maintained and updated. Most packages should work with 5.2. Our Application base, Cartalyst Platform http://platform.cartalyst.com will remain on Laravel 5.1 LTS until our next major release. (no eta)

If you had a specific package in mind let me know and will try to answer best I can.

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fcaivano's avatar

I was about to ask the same.

I AM an active subscriptor, and although there have been some updates in the code, i don't see any news/blog posts and communication in general.

It would be great if the people behind it could be more open about the status of different things and if there is going to be future for they're packages.

I say this because paying 300 U$D a year without knowing if any updates/new features and so on are coming, is quite discouraging.

For example, an OAuth Server package would be great.

Or even just to know what's coming next :)

drsii's avatar

@fcaivano we feel the same and it's been something we have been trying to address for about year. Finding a qualified community liaison that is an engineer / developer, knows our products, and the community has been a challenge.

I'm happy to say, and it's almost somewhat interesting, that of all days for this topic to come up, happens to be the day our Community Liaison starts at Cartalyst...

We'll be introducing very soon. :)

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appdezign's avatar

Hi @drsii,

It's good to hear from you. I'm looking forward to new updates, tweets, posts, video's and so on. And I sincerely hope that the currentr packages will be maintained and updated to support 5.2. New products are always of course, but I think it's important to keep your existing customers happy and informed :-)

Hope to hear from your 'Community Liaison' soon ...

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cbj4074's avatar

Hello, everyone!

I am pleased and honored to introduce myself as Cartalyst's Community Liaison, effective today. I am grateful that my eagerness and enthusiasm towards Cartalyst's products attracted the company's attention and lead it to reach-out to me in this capacity.

As a brief introduction, I've been using Cartalyst's products in a professional capacity for about 18 months. A little more than halfway through that period, I felt as though my familiarity with the products was sufficient to offer my candid opinion in a similar thread. As a then-newish-user, my hope is that this post will hearten and encourage others who may be interested but still "on the fence":

https://laracasts.com/discuss/channels/laravel/does-the-subscribtion-to-cartalyst-worth-it?page=1#reply-86738

Since writing that post, my appreciation for Cartalyst's work has only grown stronger. The more familiar I become with the code-base, the more I appreciate the effort and expertise that belies the Cartalyst Arsenal. Similarly, the more I interact with the amazing user community and the talented developers who reach for the Cartalyst toolbox every day, the more I enjoy being a part of the group. It's a true pleasure to learn from these individuals -- both the Cartalyst developers and the ever-growing group of subscribers -- and give-back wherever I'm able.

I recognize several usernames in the above-mentioned thread as individuals who later subscribed to the Cartalyst Arsenal, which I mention only as testament to the fact that Cartalyst's products speak for themselves. Perhaps some of those individuals would be willing to provide an update as to their respective experiences.

As noted above, one of the challenges that Cartalyst has faced, historically, is keeping the user-community up-to-date and apprised of all the goings-on behind the scenes. As so many growing businesses are, Cartalyst is torn between staying afloat with work that earns immediate returns and work that strives to satisfy future needs. Rest assured that development is as active as ever and that, in my humble opinion, Cartalyst sits atop a veritable gold-mine of awesome, yet-to-be-seen products that promise to reshape the ways in which many of us build applications on the Web.

To offer a bit about myself, I've been working in PHP professionally since 2003. In the spirit of Einsteinian wisdom, the more I learn, the more I realize just how little I know. And Cartalyst's developers' code has been rather influential in cementing that bit of age-old wisdom for me. :) Truly, I am humbled. The code is super-clean, well-organized, and impressive in every respect. As someone who has written a framework himself, of perhaps nearly equal scope, I can say that these developers are well-qualified.

I look forward to providing everyone with regular updates in the future and assisting Cartalyst in all of the areas noted in this thread.

Please don't hesitate to reach-out to me directly or to visit me on Cartalyst's Gitter channel, where I spend most of my life! :)

Your replies and questions are welcome, and I, like @drsii, will do my best to respond quickly and candidly.

Thanks so much!

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jimmck's avatar

It took me many clicks to find a listing of the 'Arsenal'. Not one open source package to get a flavor? 9 months of quiet.

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graham
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@londoh

short version:

  • Cartalyst isn't actually dead
  • @cbj4074 is now community liaison
  • Cartalyst is awesome, ra ra Catalyst
  • expect more updates.....

Cartalyst always struck me as a company that produces some decent packages but they haven't the foggiest idea how to market them, their own tagline reinforces that opinion:

"You wont find fancy lifestyle graphics and marketing bravado here. Just cold... hard... code...".

Never a truer word said. It's almost like they're trying to hide what the packages actually do, how you can use them, what you can build with them, what benefits they offer. They just create packages, lob them onto their website and onto the next one.

I'm not entirely convinced that adding another techy to the team is the solution but you never know. Best of luck @cbj4074

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drsii's avatar

@graham pretty much nailed it spot on.

I know there is a communication and marketing problem. To be perfectly out in the open and i've said it before, We're not currently in the marketing game and I don't want to be. We have a solid set of libraries and a pretty cool base application but we're still very much into research & development. We have a goal and once it's ready we'll be game on. Until then we'll solve the communication problem by having someone who has a deep technical understanding of what we do, and can relay it in a language that developers will understand.

"You wont find fancy lifestyle graphics and marketing bravado here. Just cold... hard... code..." Absolutely stand by this when it comes to selling libraries. We'll probably split the arsenal off once our main ecommerce product is ready.

@jimmck the best place to look at our coding style is to view our open source libraries. https://github.com/cartalyst

https://github.com/cartalyst/sentinel and https://github.com/cartalyst/stripe i would wager are the most popular and useful when it comes to the open source libraries. I try to open source as much as possible.

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midade's avatar

@cbj4074 We need any information about Data-grid updates and multi-tenant support , we should expect new release @1stQ nothing new since more than 4 months !! Github updates are very very slow !! I know some people stopped using cartalyst and started their own version and customization There is some problems with performance for example extension registration on every request ! nothing new @ this point.

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Question in 2021 still opne! Is Cartalyst Platform still active? I am working on a project with Cartalyst Platform and need a little bit support how to upgrade tthe system. Maybe there are people who have the same problem? I am using Platform in version 7.0 and like to upgrade it to version 9.0. or higher. Did anybody has experience with it?

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