What would your solution for real time UI updates be?

@Sinnbeck Are there downsides for using sockets over polling? I'm not sure why I was told sockets could cause issues, if polling is always sending HTTP requests and sockets only open when needed. what did they mean when they said having many sockets is bad? Isn't it's something that takes a very short amount of time then it closes therefore it should be better than polling via ajax?

@cooperino hard to know without talking to them or reading the exact quote. But it could be due to the cost. Using a service like pusher can get very expensive very fast.

@Sinnbeck I will check soketi. Btw it has to be done on a Linux server as Laravel seem to only work with Supervisor

@cooperino Yeah I set mine up on a tiny ubuntu server. :) It is just a npm package that you install globally and run.

@Sinnbeck I installed an Ubuntu server on a VirtualBox VM and now SSH'ing to it from Windows using VSCode SSH extension. (moved the entire Laravel project from Windows to the Ubuntu VM)

Do I have to do it this way if I want to keep working from Windows, or there's a way to have the project code on Windows and only the queue worker on the VM?

@cooperino I personally dont use virtual box. If you want to use that, maybe look into homestead https://laravel.com/docs/9.x/homestead

Personally I prefer docker: https://sinnbeck.dev/posts/using-lando-to-run-laravel-in-docker This is what I used to set up soketi for testing it out locally.

@Sinnbeck Oh so your Laravel code is inside a Docker container and the soketi is on another container, and all run on Windows? (I had that setup before for local development, minus the soketi server)

You then SSH to the docker container from Windows?

@cooperino I actually run on linux mint as i dont like windows :) But the docker container just links the content from my machine and into the docker container, so its the same. I of course use lando to run commands inside the docker container, but all my regular development is on my host machine :)

And yes I have a container for each service. So one for php, one for nginx, one for mysql and one for soketi

You can do the same with laravel sail. I just prefer Lando as its easy to set up, and add tools to. It is also easy to set up a proxy to connect to something like soketi from both the browser, and inside laravel. And it comes with a https certificate out of the box :)

@Sinnbeck Oh nice and in your docker config there's a way to copy only the changed file over to the container? (I used docker quite a long time so forgot if that's possible)

So if your code is on the host, you have to build it to the container right? Is it configured in a way where every time you save a file locally on Mint, it "uploads" it to the container?

@cooperino Docker uses volumes to map between the container and your host system. So everytime you save a file it is automatically changed in the container and vice versa. It is just like a symlink on you computer :) Lando handles the setup of all of this automatically

@Sinnbeck Oh yes! Symlink, didn't use docker a long time (I think it was something with FROM word in the config file). Will give Lando a look

@cooperino The FROM keyword is a docker file thing, and it just tells docker which docker image to use :)

@Sinnbeck Haha 😶 I totally forgot everything then