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getvma's avatar
Level 49

Laracasts on IE11, Unusable!!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-C3n2Ne7P3JemFKYVFZZTdRSXM/view?pli=1

And I know some here will be rather snarky about it, but when I create sites I test on all platforms.. Its part of the trade....

I've cleared my cache too.

Looks the same in Compatibility View. Breaks entirely on IE8.. Also all emulations on IE have the same effect as in the screen shot.

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bashy's avatar

Confirmed but who in the web developing world is viewing Laracasts.com on IE? :)

I've uninstalled IE on my Windows machine it's so bad.

JeffreyWay's avatar

I honestly don't even think about IE support for Laracasts. The percentages are tiny-tiny.

However, seems to look okay, other than the missing background images for lessons. IE11 supports multiple backgrounds, so I'll check into that.

But lol to IE8.

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getvma's avatar
Level 49

Hi Bashy,

As of Nov 2014, 9.8% in the world uses IE versus 3.7% Safari. and I assume that 80-90% of the developers here use mostly Mac and to a lesser extent (a Linux variant).

I always test on the top 5 browsers because that is the assurance that I provide to my customers.

As of Nov 2014, 75.3% in the world are on Win8,7 or Vista, many of them default to IE due to the ecosystem within the OS (to make it short). Many do install Firefox and Chrome but trust me its never a good thing to make other browsers the default on Win.

There is no reason why at least from ie10+ this site should not look acceptable. I'm sure it is simply an oversight on the front-end dev... A simple css background: black in .lesson-block for ie10 browsers would alleviate the issue.

Regards,

getvma's avatar
Level 49

Oh,

and by the way....

I love my Laracast.

RachidLaasri's avatar

This site is specially made for developers, and i personally don't think a web developer would ever use IE to browse Laracasts.

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JeffreyWay's avatar

Yeah - general IE usage stats don't even begin to apply to Laracasts.

I just checked analytics. IE users represent less than 1% of visitors here. Pretty insane, really.

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getvma's avatar
Level 49

Then that would explain the oversight :-)

How about showing some love for the 1 percenters :)

We're developers too you know?

getvma's avatar
Level 49

yeah right,

I have 5 browsers installed and 2 VMs (CentOS and Ubuntu) that I use daily....

They hate me already :-)

bashy's avatar

I purposely don't bother adding fixes for IE in my sites so people using IE have a bad experience :)

Joking aside, when working on a site for clients, you would of course check over all browsers. Me and my colleagues use Browser Stack (website in my screenshot above) to debug across versions.

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brandonviles's avatar

http://laracasts.com via IE

ERROR 1
You have accessed this site from a (ie, the only) browser which has been deemed by the Laravel community to be <explicit> <explicit>.

To continue, please get a real browser
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BrianDillingham's avatar

Setting a background fallback would be an easy fix.

.lesson-block .full-center {
   background: #444; /* fallback */
   background: -webkit-linear-gradient(top, rgba(0,0,0,0.7), rgba(0,0,0,0.7)), url(...);
   background: -moz-linear-gradient(top, rgba(0,0,0,0.7), rgba(0,0,0,0.7)), url(...);
   background: linear-gradient(top, rgba(0,0,0,0.7), rgba(0,0,0,0.7)), url(...);
   background-size: cover;
}
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getvma's avatar
Level 49

Yes

I'll humor you. Think of it as your Test Browser, if a site works there it likely works everywhere else... (just not the reverse)

influencebydesign's avatar

I'd rather see time put into more awesome content than supporting a browser nobody uses. I doubt there are developers who are restricted to what browsers they can install on their systems.

dberry's avatar

I can see on here not supporting it for the 1%, that's just an as Jeffrey analyzes the usage data thing...

However, to the "I doubt any web developer would be using IE", so untrue. I know several devs, who run circles around me and most people I know, banking $200K+ a year that use only IE. It's a pretty small/conceited/naive view of the world making statements like that.

puzbie's avatar

I tried accessing Laracasts today from a PC that only had IE 11, so there are instances when it is a required. It was difficult to find the video I was after because without the image you have a white title on a light grey background.

I can understand why Jeff would have overlooked this on a dev site such as this, but in general terms, developers ignore IE at their peril.

bashy's avatar

developers ignore IE at their peril.

So they should, it's years behind and a pain to work with. Even the latest version is about 2 years behind.

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puzbie's avatar

Way to miss the point. Unless you are developing sites that are only going to used by developers, you cannot ignore IE. If you do you will give a lot of the users a shit experience, just because you can't do your job properly.

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bashy's avatar

Yeah, at work we have to test everything on IE versions since we do government sites. They love old computers and IE 8 :)

It was a joke but I wish we didn't have to deal with IE at all. It literally is like you're working backwards.

Also, don't think this is necessary

just because you can't do your job properly.

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emzurkin's avatar

IE still dominates the market share in developing countries. So this will cause serious problems in those areas. Luckily, Microsoft haven't published an Android browser yet.

bashy's avatar

They should upgrade and save themselves from troubles

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brandonviles's avatar

Yeah, they're not developing too much if they are still using IE.

Tyloo's avatar

Wake up bro, we are soon in 2015! Time to get some good resolutions :)

puzbie's avatar

When I said "you can't do your job properly" I was referring to the developer who designs general sites but doesn't cater for IE. If that isn't you then you have no need to be offended, as it wasn't directed at you.

Personally, I get fed up trying to use sites that have only been tested on one browser. It happens far too frequently. I use chrome myself, but my wife favours IE. Some of the finance packages she uses more or less insist on IE (which is equally bad practice) whereas other won't work on her browser.

bashy's avatar

When I said "you can't do your job properly" I was referring to the developer who designs general sites but doesn't cater for IE. If that isn't you then you have no need to be offended, as it wasn't directed at you.

I know it wasn't direct, just a lot of reasons why people don't need/want to fix things in IE. If no one did, people would move to other browsers. :)

IE is actually holding the whole internet behind if you think about it.

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